“Narcissists will never tell you the truth. They live with the fear of abandonment and can’t deal with facing their own shame. Therefore, they will twist the truth, downplay their behavior, blame others and say whatever it takes to remain the victim. They are master manipulators and con artists that don’t believe you are smart enough to figure out the depth of their disloyalty. Their needs will always be more important than telling you any truth that isn’t in their favor…”
― attributed to Shannon L. Alder.
On May 8, 2024, the New York Post YouTube channel posted a video providing Steven Greenstreet’s edited interview with Jerkpatrick – oh shit, I’m sorry, Dr. Sean Kirkparick – regarding his time as director of AARO and the aftermath. At roughly 17 minutes into the interview, after a little under twenty minutes of passionately sucking ARRO’s bulging, throbbing arrowhead, Greenstreet suddenly confesses, in voiceover, “Okay, now for two curveballs. There were two moments during the interview that didn’t sit right with me.”
The first such curveball he mentioned was when he asked Kirkpatrick about the UAP Task Force.
He explains how, given the “viral news stories” by the UFO Activists, there was a surge in public interest in UFOs. As a consequence, the Pentagon created The UAP Task Force (UAPTF), which ran from August of 2020 to November of 2021. Greenstreet notes that in the ARRO Report, they dedicated a full 6 pages to AWWSAP and how the UFO Activists therein were “wasting taxpayer money chasing paranormal things”, and finds it suspicious, or at the very least confusing, however, that only two paragraphs were dedicated to the UAPTF – particularly given that it was headed by Jay Stratton, identified by Greenstreet as one of those who had formerly been part of AWWSAP, and one of those he had christened “The UFO Activists.” Furthermore, the report failed to mention how Stratton recruited “various paranormal enthusiasts” and how the task force “missed multiple incursions of Chinese spycraft over America for years” due to “chasing spooky UFOs”.
To summarize and clarify, Greenstreet’s issue was this: when the UFO Activists were in AWWSAP, the paranormal aspects of the investigation were highlighted, “but when members of the same group get put in charge of yet another program,” namely the UAPTF, “there are zero mentions of it. This report was supposed to reveal all those details, but here it doesn’t.”
This last line, I must confess, I find very curious. Most surprising is that he seems surprised. I mean, it’s almost as if he doesn’t suspect in the least that, given the ARRO Report was a Congressionally-mandated historical report and that ARRO is a wing of the DOD, that they wouldn’t try to rewrite history through the medium of select omissions and deceptive spins.
So Greenstreet asks Kirkpatrick if some of those involved in AWWSAP went on to work for the UAPTF, and Kirkpatrick answered that to his knowledge the UAPTF had only three full-time and unnamed members that “lived in the Pentagon” and that “everybody else that was tapped across the community – the IC or the DOD – weren’t full-time members of the task force.”
In other words, he evaded the question.
Greenstreet noted this, and politely persisted, this time softening the question, asking if AWWSAP members were “initially” involved in the UAPTF, to which Kirkpatrick finally answered a semi-definitive, “I believe so,” but denied knowing who placed them in those positions or why they would do so given their apparently damning history in AWWSAP or the discrediting comments Kirkptrick has conveyed regarding them.
“Are you aware that some of those third parties that the UAPTF brought in were a number of people with fringe beliefs,” Greenstreet asked, “like Ghost Hunters and psychics, and they were brought in to be analysts?”
“I was not part of and don’t know anything about how they ran the task force,” Kirkpatrick claimed. “I was actually out in Colorado during all that.”
“Okay, but during your AARO historical report you didn’t see any of that information?”
“I think the rest of that part of the review will come in volume two,” he clearly deflects.
“Oh, really?” Greenstreet says, admirably not giving the guy a pass. “So there’s more on the task force coming in volume two?”
“I don’t know for certain,” Kirkpatrick says, visibly backpedaling and taking refuge in deflection yet again. “I have to direct you back to ARRO.”
Greenstreet openly confessed that while he wanted to press him more in this area, the clock was ticking on the interview, and he had other questions he wanted to ask, so he felt compelled to move on. I simply don’t have it in me to criticize the guy for that, as given the 30-minute time constraints, there would be more questions I’d want to ask if I were in his position. Even so, I must say, it’s good for us that he moved on, too, for this brings us to the second curveball he referenced, which, as Greenstreet put it, came when he asked if Kirkpatrick had any “previous history working with UFOs or if he had any previous associations with members” of the UFO Activists.
In case you’re wondering: this is when it gets so, so, so fucking good.
First some context is required, however. In one of Greenstreet’s previous reports, this one apparently on May 2 – almost a week before this interview with Kirkpatrick – he published an interview he had with Brandon Fugal, the current owner of Skinwalker Ranch.
In that interview, Fugal alleged that in 2018, Thomas Kirk McConnell, a staffer on the Senate Armed Services Committee (SASC), called Fugal on behalf of Senator McCain, who was chairman of the committee until his death in August of that year. The call was to request he brief the committee in DC regarding the strange activity occurring on Skinwalker Ranch. Fugal accepted, of course, and reported that after preparing his powerpoint presentation, he flew to DC and entered a large briefing room. Hal Puthoff and Brennan McKernan (who later became the sole director of the UAPTF, from 2020 to 2022) were allegedly present, and Fugal ultimately gave his briefing to multiple Pentagon officials. Most interesting, however, was something else Fugal said regarding the briefing, a confession that led to a lovely, public chain reaction.
“As we [commenced] the presentation,” he said, “I was interrupted by a gentleman at the head of the table, and he said, ‘Wait. Before we proceed any further, I wanna establish an understanding: all the gentlemen here, Mr. Fugal, that you’re presenting to are all very well aware of the reality of [the] UFO phenomenon. So please dispense with any part of your presentation that would seek to convince us of the reality, because we already know.’”
In the interview, when pressed, Fugal failed to identify the individual, identifying this person only as “one of the individuals leading the discussion.” In a voiceover, Greenstreet revealed that one of his sources, “familiar with this briefing, told me this was Sean Kirkpatrick.” Naturally, this in turn inspired a series of questions in Greenstreet’s subsequent interview with Kirkpatrick.
AARO, mind you, was created in July, 2022.
This is where we come to Greenstreet’s second “curveball” in his interview with Kirpatrick, which came after establishing, through a series of questions, Kirkpatrick’s assertions that, prior to AARO, he had no previous history or even interest in the UFO subject (aside from “the occasional movie,” he says), and performed no duties associated with either the paranormal or UFOs. Then Greenstreet dropped the bombshell question:
G: “Did you attend a 2018 [SASC] briefing on Skinwalker Ranch?”
K: “No. I attended a briefing at the request of [SASC] on what was, at that time, associated with the AATIP/AWWSAP research that was going on, as an independent outside reviewer, and I gave them my opinions at that time.”
G: “Who invited you to that briefing?”
K: “It was one one of the staffers.”
G: “Okay, one of the staffers on SASC. Got it. And you’re saying that this was an offset of AWWSAP/ATTIP?”
K: “That’s my understanding at the time – that it was a spin out of those programs.”
G: “In 2018? Wow. Okay.”
K: “Though those programs were ended, the research by these independent people – because this was not an official government briefing, this was a briefing by people that were not associated with the government, so…
G: “Okay, so this briefing was not an official DOD/Pentagon briefing…”
K: “Oh, absolutely not.”
Throughout this series of questions I can’t shake the sense that Kirkpatrick is freaking out inside, verbally striving to cover various sectors of his increasingly exposed and bloated ass on the fly, all the while at least vaguely aware that in the process he was simultaneously digging his own grave, emitting the increasingly distinctive odor of potent fishiness and utter, vomit-inducing bullshit.
When Greenstreet then confronted Kirkpatrick with what Fugle claimed – namely that he had led the briefing and had proclaimed that was already fully aware of the “reality” of UFOs – he, of course, denied it all.
“I wasn’t leading anything,” he insisted. “I had another job at the time and I was brought in as an independent, objective reviewer of what… that SASC was being told.” In addition, he denied having had any association with any of the UFO Activists before becoming director of ARRO in July of 2022, and denied having ever met any of them prior to this briefing in 2018.
Even Greenstreet, to his credit, smells the distinct scent of bullshit here.
“Okay, but seriously, what was he even doing there?” Greenstreet asks in voiceover of Kirkpatrick’s presence at the briefing, regardless of his capacity or what he might have said there. “How can he say that he had no interest or duties regarding UFOs before 2022 if he’s attending briefings in 2018 about one of the most famous UFO spots on planet Earth?”
While Greenstreet didn’t push him on it during the interview, he emailed follow up questions to Kirkpatrick, and the doctor responded that he had “ended up at that briefing because a congressional staffer asked me to attend as an objective third party scientist to listen to the presentation. I did not know it was about Skinwalker Ranch until later. I don’t recall it being referenced by that name during the briefing.”
Where Kirkpatrick had previously been digging his grave with a large spoon in a frantic, amphetamine-fueled kind of way, his energy now seemed to increase, and he exchanged his spoon for a shovel.
Greetstreet then emailed him the Powerpoint presentation with slides inundated with the words “Skinwalker Ranch” that Fugal claims he presented at the briefing, which Kirkpatrick then claimed was unfamiliar to him.
“That’s not the briefing I recall seeing, The briefing I saw was less polished,” is what he specifically said. Then, apparently oblivious to how pathetic of a con man he is, he went a step further in his pathetic effort to increasingly distance himself from the circumstance. “Come to think about it, I don’t believe it was 2018 that I attended a briefing on The Hill. I believe it would have been 2017. In 2018 I was stationed in Colorado. I don’t recall ever meeting Fugal. Maybe he’s confusing the two meetings.”
And so it came to pass that Kirkpatrick exchanged his shovel for a goddamn excavator.
When Greenstreet subsequently emailed Fugal via email, he responded: “Are you trying to get Kirkpatrick in trouble and destroy his credibility? You better be careful with what you report.” Greenstreet replied that this was not his intention and explained how he’d had an interview with him and provided what he’d asserted regarding the matter. Fugal responded that indeed, despite what he might say, Kirkpatrick “was at that meeting on April 19th, 2018. I gave you an accurate account of the meeting and have video, photos and witnesses.” At the time Greenstreet published his video, Fugal did not respond.
But he did. Fugal did indeed respond.
Not to Greenstreet, however, but to the public. On May 9, 2024, on X, Fugal posted: “I am telling the truth. On April 19, 2018, my team from Skinwalker Ranch was asked to provide a confidential briefing in Washington D.C. to the U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence & United States Armed Services Committee. Sean Kirkpatrick was at the head of the table.”
Fugal’s word against Kirkpatrick’s ever-morphing ones, right? Not so. Fugal also provided three photos, which he later confessed that he wasn’t supposed to take, but decided to take anyway, just in the event that he might later require proof that it happened. Good for him, too, for the first of these photos is truly epic.
This photo was taken during the presentation, and depicts ten people. Near the head of the table, there is one person seemingly looking towards the camera with a displeased look on his face.
That individual? It is undoubtedly Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick.
Jerkpatrick: a fucking liar.
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